February 15, 2006

IS IT *EVER* OK TO USE RACIAL SLURS? - UPDATED 2-16-06 9:30AM

Kevin of Eckernet is a little pissed at Ann Coulter for using the term "raghead", citing this quote (I can't find a transcript - search "ann coulter cpac" on Google News for more info):

"Maybe they do [have nuclear weapons], maybe they don't, but they're certainly acting like they do. ... If you don't want to get shot by the police, don't point a gun at them. Or as I think our motto should be, post 9/11," Coulter said, "'Raghead talks tough, raghead faces consequences.'"

I'm not sure I agree with him.

Now, I'm not usually a fan of racial slurs. Using them bespeaks a lack of imagination on the user's part. After all, there are SO many creative ways to be insulting, why settle for the easy target?

On the other hand, there may be times...

A thought experiment - if a black man murdered my wife, I wouldn't refer to him as "an African-American gentleman". I'd feel free to trot out a stream of the most hateful race-based epithets I could conjure, and I wouldn't feel bad about it.

I think in that case, it'd be ok, because it's personal between me & him. I don't mean to insult his race as a whole. I'm just trying to find the cruelest, most hurtful thing to throw at him, personally.

On the other hand, if I were to look at a black man looting stuff during Hurricane Katrina and I were to say something like "Ain't that just like a Negro to steal anything that ain't nailed down?", then that's NOT personal - that's just blanket bigotry. I'm insulting all black people in general.

Ann's case is somewhere in between. We're at war with a lot of Middle-Eastern Muslims. I'm a big fan of disrespecting my nation's enemies. Anything that pisses them off or makes their lives miserable is a GOOD thing in my book.

On the other hand, there are plenty of Middle-Eastern Muslims I would be proud to call "friend". Specifically, the ones who are working to help transform Iraq into a civilized nation in the face of a long, uphill struggle.

So if Ann were to say something like "I wish I could go to Iraq and personally shoot every last raghead I saw," then I'd say "Ann, you ignorant slut. Sit down and shut the f*ck up."

(Notice how "ignorant slut" is personal to Ann - I'm not insulting EVERY woman who's intellectually-challenged and vaginally-generous)

But upon examining her quote, she appears to be directing the "raghead" label only at Middle Eastern Muslims who actually threaten the security of American interests, rather than just haphazardly toward anyone who's wearing a turban. She's specifically aiming at terrorists, who - in general - suck. This isn't strictly personal, but I think it's nearer to that end of the spectrum than it is to bigotry.

So I'm leaning towards not having a problem with what she said.

Feel free to persuade me otherwise, if you're so inclined.

UPDATE 2-16-06 9:15 am: Perhaps the question should be, "is it simply wrong to insult a man based on ANY unchangeable physical characteristics?" For example, if my hypothetical murderer were bald, missing an eye, and had a club foot, would it be inappropriate for me to call him a "butchering, chrome-domed, popeyed, monopod"?

Not a rhetorical question. I'm honestly trying to examine where lines should be drawn on this issue. I know it's a sensitive topic, and I appreciate that so far the discussion has remained rational.

UPDATE 2-16-06 9:30 AM: Would calling him a "bastard" be considered a slur against people born out of wedlock? Would the appropriateness of the insult be affected by whether or not his parents were married when he was born, i.e. if he actually WERE a bastard?

Posted by: Harvey at 07:57 PM | Comments (10) | Add Comment
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1 vaginally generous. I like that term. Very Evocative. :-D

Posted by: tommy at February 15, 2006 10:47 PM (EhwJT)

2 In the cases you cite, if your issue with the man himself or his race. If it's with the man, deal with that. Independent of his race, his race should have nothing to do with it. Even if the cases you cite justify what you that situation, Ann was not in a similiar situation. She's playing to a crowd. She's not trying to "hurt" any militant Muslims as she knows damn well they don't care what an infidel like her thinks or says.

Posted by: Kevin at February 15, 2006 11:03 PM (Nmxi6)

3 The only racial epithets I use are towards Arabs. I've dealt with Muslim Arabs, in their home countries. Not much will make you hate them faster than that.

Posted by: the Humble Devildog at February 15, 2006 11:13 PM (TIYju)

4 I think the whole point is moot. Viva Feedom of Speech!

Posted by: Contagion at February 16, 2006 07:23 AM (Q5WxB)

5 She didn't use "raghead" she used "jihad monkey". Her column is up on yahoo today.

Posted by: Machelle at February 16, 2006 07:48 AM (ZAyoW)

6 Harvey, I see where you're coming from, but I still disagree. A couple of reasons: 1) I don't use the word n*gger, and haven't since I was old enough to understand what it meant. If a black man killed my wife, I'm certain that if he somehow managed to get to the police before I got my hands on him, I'd be begging the cops to "let me get my hands on that black cocksucker", but I wouldn't start hurling racial epithets. 2) Raghead is too inclusive. Think about the Sikhs. They wear turbans, but are pretty much peaceful people from what I've seen. Don't you think that raghead is offending to too many people? Think if Ann had used the term "sand n*gger" because, you know, they all look alike over in that part of the world. Still not offensive enough? 3) And here's the killer: those of us that don't sit on the left side of the political aisle have had to deal with the prevailing sentiment that we're all racist bastards. I always hear phrases like "You voted for Bush? You don't act like a racist/homophobe/bigot/::insert slur here::". What I don't need is a prominent conservative like Ann reinforcing that stereotype. And that's why I found her comments so egregious. It's not just that they made Ann look stupid, but they made everyone sitting right of center look bad. If I ever meet her, I'll be sure to thank her.

Posted by: physics geek at February 16, 2006 08:19 AM (Xvrs7)

7 Machelle - apparently she used "raghead" during her CPAC convention speech, but I did find the column you mentioned where she said "jihad monkey": http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20060216/cm_ucac/muslimbitesdog;_ylt=AlHqzAi3OriznQOXcp8tHj07vTYC;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA-- also available at her site, which is painfully slow right now: http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/printer_friendly.cgi?article=100 PG - ironically, "cocksucker" could be considered a slur against gays :-) Which makes me wonder... if the murdering black man were also gay, would calling him a "cocksucker" be as off-limits as calling him "n*gger"? Are you saying that it's only considered sporting to insult him if what I say is a lie, or am I misinterpreting? Kevin - If I wanted to put a positive spin on Ann's remarks, I'd say that she's intentionally disrespecting militant muslims to show that she doesn't fear their terrorist threats. Or it could very well be that she's just a rude, loud-mouthed, hate-monger who gets a perverse pleasure from being unnecessarily crude in public. I don't read Ann Coulter on a regular basis, so I don't know if this is just some over-the-top schtick she does for comedic effect, or if she's just a loon. I'm not qualified to say.

Posted by: Harvey at February 16, 2006 09:32 AM (ubhj8)

8 Towelhead would have been more approriate.

Posted by: spacemonkey at February 16, 2006 12:24 PM (DN55C)

9 Is "nigger" even an insult anymore? All the gansta rappers call themselves and their friends that.

Posted by: Deathknyte at February 16, 2006 07:03 PM (cdtR7)

10 Isn't "raghead" more of a cultural slur? No one is born with a piece of cloth attached to his head. A minor point, possibly, because people don't choose the culture they are born into any more than they choose their skin color but they can choose how they respond to and participate in their culture.

Posted by: Lynn S at February 17, 2006 08:07 AM (cZY6q)

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