November 30, 2005
PANTS BY MC ESCHER
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Building on a post from The Man of GOP and the City, which you should read (it's short & mostly visual) to get the full effect.]
MoveOn.org has a new ad out, which includes a shot of "American troops stuck in Iraq".
Trouble is, they used a picture of British troops in the video, one of whom is wearing shorts (which are not part of the American uniform).
Normally I'd just say "buncha dumbasses" and ignore it, but as we all know, it's not the lie, it's the cover-up that'll bring you down.
In the sidebar picture, they show Mr. Shorts wearing pants.
But not just ANY pants - the same exact pants as the guy standing next to him.
This presents some problems, since they're not standing at the same angle, but they hoped no one would notice.
Sorry guys, it's just not your day.
Links to some VERY big pictures follow, so it might take a while on dial-up, but I wanted you to have the full effect.
First, a screenshot of the MO.O site, so you can see the pictures side-by-side (and as proof that it actually happened, in case they take it down - remember: ALWAYS GET A SCREENSHOT).
Second, greatly enlarged side-by-side comparison of the fake pic (left) and the real pic (right). In the fake pic, notice that the camoflage pattern - right down to the wrinkles and reflection of the sunlight - is EXACTLY the same on both pairs (with allowances for distortion due to photoshopping).
Yet if you look at their feet, you'll see that they're standing at different angles. Which makes for a VERY strange effect for the left soldier: although his right foot is slightly behind him, and you should see the butt-crack of his pants (as you do in the shorts pic), you actually see the front of his pants, which made me think of Escher's "Belvedere" and thus the title of this post.
Anyway, I suggest that MO.O remove the ad, apologize for misleading the American people, and fire the guy who came up with the idea for posting the fake picture.
UPDATE: Tiny thumbnails of very large pictures:
First:
Second:
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Are you trying to say someone with a political agenda is trying to decieve me? I don't believe it!
Posted by: Contagion at November 30, 2005 08:37 AM (e8b4J)
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Ha! Too funny. At least they tried.
Posted by: Oddybobo at November 30, 2005 09:27 AM (6Gm0j)
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Why you! How dare you get a Malkinlance to something you posted on your own website!
Posted by: Frank J. at November 30, 2005 09:54 AM (NkZSk)
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I looked and looked but I could see no butt cracks.
You teasing me?
Posted by: Machelle at November 30, 2005 10:22 AM (ZAyoW)
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Why demand an apology from idiots? It's not like that will make them any less idiotic.
Posted by: Bugz at November 30, 2005 11:00 AM (uKuUC)
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Machelle - Well... a cloth-covered butt crack...
Bugz - True, but I'm trying to be kind by suggesting the course a responsible adult would take after being caught exercising bad judgment.
Not that I expect them to go that direction :-)
Posted by: Harvey at November 30, 2005 01:14 PM (ubhj8)
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http://www.actionforum.com/forum/scores.html?comment_id=270466
lets see what they do.
Posted by: z at November 30, 2005 01:50 PM (ii/Tg)
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Kinda off-topic, but I LOVE M.C. Escher's drawings! :-)
Posted by: dustbunny101 at November 30, 2005 06:56 PM (a+Mxr)
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Naughty MoveOn.org. You would think that they would have learned a lesson from Air America that you can't fool the public anymore!
Posted by: SeanS at December 01, 2005 04:10 AM (cEjQ0)
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And?
Seems to me this is small taters compared to the cherrypicked WMD evidence, the Scooter Libby/Karl Rove lies, and the biggest lie--"Mission Accomplished."
Posted by: paul at December 01, 2005 07:36 AM (oseFw)
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Paul - Granted, it's very small. I just found it ironically amusing that MO.O would doctor a photograph on a web page designed to accuse Bush of misleading people.
It was mostly petty schadenfreude on my part.
As for the rest of your comment... I'll just say that I disagree with your evaluation of Bush's job performance and leave it at that.
Posted by: Harvey at December 01, 2005 08:34 AM (ubhj8)
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Shocking!
Only evil libs could do such a dastardly thing:
http://photos1.blogger.com/hello/145/1296/640/whatever-med.jpg
Posted by: circlethewagons at December 01, 2005 10:49 AM (7Fqgx)
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Dude, did you know you've been linked to by PJM / OSM?
http://www.osm.org/site/story/20051130moveonfraud?currow=9
Congrats!
Posted by: _Jon at December 01, 2005 01:29 PM (g9Y9+)
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Cool!
And the Philly Inquirer Blog:
http://blogs.philly.com/blinq/2005/11/moving_right_al.html
Still waiting on the Puppy Blender.
Meanwhile, it looks like MO.O has pulled the doctored photo.
See? THIS is why I always say GET A SCREENSHOT!
I feel SO incredibly smug now :-)
Posted by: Harvey at December 01, 2005 02:02 PM (ubhj8)
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Yeah, well just don't look in your shorts - I'm told that for you it's a view that will deflate any pride.
Posted by: _Jon at December 01, 2005 02:08 PM (g9Y9+)
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I'm so proud of you grandpappy!
Posted by: vw bug at December 02, 2005 07:01 AM (BAHyt)
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What's really funny to me is that they took the guy that is in line behind the shorts guy and put his pants on the shorts guy... check it out... that's REALLY weak - even I could do better than that... FYI - I understand they've taken that image down now
Posted by: Madfish Willie at December 02, 2005 09:03 AM (dcX0a)
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Wow! Now getting caught with your pants up around your knee's is a novel occurence. Only the folks who had no problem championing a President with his pants around his ankles would see no ethical problem with "tweaking" the photos.
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November 28, 2005
ON MOURNING
Pam of Pamibe l
ost her mother recently. She turned off comments on her post, but I suppose you can leave some words here, if you'd like.
Being an adoptee, Pam asks an interesting question about whether being adopted has an effect on the depth of her mourning:
"I feel disloyal, wondering how a birthchild would feel in my place. Would the connection be broader, sharper, as a branch of the family tree is snapped off? The pain more deeply felt, the sadness a seemingly endless well?"
Short answer, no.
My father went after a lingering illness, and since I knew it was coming, I got a good deal of my mourning finished before his body quit.
You'll feel the loss in stabbing bits and pieces, as you stumble over moments when you think "Mom would like this" before remembering that she's gone. It won't be a constant thing. It'll catch you off guard when you least expect it, but each time it bleeds a little less, until the wound is healed and all that's left is the scar of loving memory, where the flesh is bright and strong.
No more pain. Just the reminder.
Cherish the memories and tell her stories so that her light will still shine.
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I feel it would be the same as mourning for the loss of a family memeber from your spouses side.
Your not related to the them blood wise but you feel a bond with them, a bond of family.
I mourned the loss of my husbands grandmother, whom I only knew for 7 years, more than I mourned the loss of either of my grandmothers, who I knew for my entire life (35 & 37 years).
It's the connection you feel with that person, not the DNA.
Posted by: Machelle at November 28, 2005 12:16 PM (ZAyoW)
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I agree that when faced with a lingering illness it seems to be the case that you get some of those thoughts and feelings out before your loved ones pass. I remember being glad that my grandfather had finally passed. I wasn't too sad as he had lead quite a life. I was more grateful to have been able to share a bit of it.
Pam, you are in my thoughts. Remember your mom and all those moments your folks blessed you with.
Posted by: Oddybobo at November 28, 2005 12:22 PM (6Gm0j)
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Pam, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family right now.
Please don't reproach yourself for your feelings. You wouldn't feel any different if you and your mother shared blood as well as the bond of your family. Your grief comes from your love for her, not your blood.
And Harvey's right, too. Your mourning isn't new, so there's no reason for it to be sharp and painful. When my grandmother died after a long battle with cancer, I felt washed out, flat, not really sad. I don't think I ever cried until later. When I missed her.
Hugs.
Posted by: caltechgirl at November 28, 2005 01:04 PM (/vgMZ)
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Pam, know you are in my thoughts, and may the light enfold and guide you in the days ahead.
Short answer, as Harvey says, is no. You and she may not share genes, but you share hearts, spirit, and love for she was you mother. She wanted you, and raised you. That transcends mere genetics and the mechanics of delivery.
I still reach for the phone some days to share news, funny stuff, or just life with Dad or even Mom, and I lost them five and ten years ago respectively. Harvey describes it well...
In both cases, we got a lot out of the way well before the end -- particularly with Mom as she fought ovarian cancer. Dad went down fast at the end, but we both knew the end was indeed coming.
It still hurts, but the funny stuff that I would share brings a smile these days, simply because I know they would find it funny.
Besides, if I listen real carefully, I can hear their laughter and comments still.
Posted by: Laughing Wolf at November 28, 2005 04:19 PM (5cMH5)
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Thank you so much, everyone, for the perspective as much as the condolences.
Harvey, you're quite simply the best.
Hugs to you all...
Posted by: pam at November 28, 2005 05:46 PM (l6NIn)
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Pam- No. It is the same. I feel certain. She was YOUR mother. Blood is irrelevant. I am so very sorry.
Posted by: Bou at November 28, 2005 09:49 PM (iHxT3)
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Pam:
My husband was adopted, but found his birth parents at age 30. He was close to BOTH sets. He has lost 3 of the parents in the past two years. He mourned all of them. Blood IS irrelevant. It is love that binds one to parents...adopted or otherwise.
You are in my thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: DixieDarlin' at November 28, 2005 10:02 PM (oMcKT)
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I would argue that the love from her mother was greater than a natural child. She _chose_ Pam. Adopting her was a deliberate and planned act, not simply a matter of letting "nature take it's course". She made a conscious choice.
As for the grieving part, I agree that Harvey sums it up best. I think the toughest part is the unexpected events that will remind you of her and result in an emotional moment at an inconvenient time. I had one of those this weekend - they suck. It's a bit tougher for a guy to explain why he's welling up, so I keep sunglasses handy wherever I go.
I recommend, Pam, that you try to be productive and active. That was my dad's advice to me as he found that spare time resulted in him dwelling on the past, making the transition more difficult for him.
Posted by: _Jon at November 29, 2005 10:18 AM (ZM3Qb)
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Based on the way Beth *still* misses her parents, *especially* this time of year - I'd say no, the bond is as deep as you want it to be. And, if anything, birth-children can be can take parents for granted...
Posted by: John of Argghhh! at November 29, 2005 04:36 PM (15lPy)
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And I can't even blame alcohol for my inability to type...
Posted by: John of Argghhh! at November 29, 2005 04:37 PM (15lPy)
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.. you and your family are in my thoughts, Pam... my sincere condolences...
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November 27, 2005
HOW TO SUPPORT THE TROOPS
An interesting comment in
this post:
You are planning to volunteer for the military, right? I mean, "support the troops" is more than just an empty slogan for you, right?
The fact that I spent 4 years on a floating nuclear missile target (aka aircraft carrier) during the Cold War aside, I think the author of that question has an exceedingly narrow view of what "support" means.
You don't need to be firing a gun in theater to "support the troops". In addition to men, a successful military campaign also needs supplies and good morale - the will to stay in the battle until victory.
The most you can do to "support the troops" from the homefront is to actively provide material or morale. Send them armor, send them cookies, send them a postcard. It all helps.
The least you can do to "support the troops" is stay out of the way while they get the job done. You don't even have to so much as say "hi" to a soldier on the street. Just live your life as a productive citizen leading a normal life. Believe it or not, it DOES help troop morale just to know that the country they're fighting for is safe and comfortable - to know that there's a land of sanity to return to when the job is done.
What DOESN'T support the troops is denigrating the mission. Arm-chair quarterbacking that the troops aren't doing a good job, or that they're doing the wrong job. It's corrosive and eats away at morale.
Now, to the commenter's credit, he's not following the third option. He's merely evaluating some events in Iraq in a more pessimistic light. I won't hold that against him.
But I wonder if he's thought through the full logic of his chicken-hawk argument. If the only people who can be considered as "supporting the troops" are those who're in combat, then aren't the only people with the right to criticize the war the people working for the Department of Defense who have full access to ALL the relevant information about conditions in the field?
If I have to pick up a rifle or shut up, they have to get a job at the Pentagon or shut up.
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SPANK!!!!
Tell that commenter to shut the fuck up... he obviously doesn't know who he's fuckin wit...
Posted by: Madfish Willie at November 27, 2005 06:15 PM (dcX0a)
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I agree. On both counts. Morale & supplies are vital to a successful mission. And if that guy wants to tell other people that the only way to support the troops is to be out there with them in the midst of the battles, I'd like to know exactly where he was asking his question from.
Posted by: dustbunny101 at November 27, 2005 08:33 PM (a+Mxr)
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Looks like "Doc Amazing" is amazingly unable to read your About Me post... scroll on down "Doc" the link is near the bottom on the right...
Oh yeah... and "Doc"... when YOU have done your military service - we'll be very happy to listen to you. (surprise! strictures work BOTH ways... funny how that happens)
Posted by: Teresa at November 27, 2005 11:38 PM (FZwDL)
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I like to think that there are two aspects to our side of the battle.
We need one group to go out and fight, and the other to stay here and be worth fighting for.
I'm far from perfect, but I do my best to be part of that second group.
And thanks to every one who's in either group.
Posted by: Chuck at November 28, 2005 12:10 PM (JXgKx)
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October 21, 2005
ARE YOU GROWING A BEARD, OR DID YOU JUST STOP SHAVING?
Jim of Parkway Rest Stop is musing about
the how & why of beard-growing.
As a Facial-Hair-Enhanced-American, I can relate.
I've had my crumb-catcher since about 30-seconds after I was discharged from the Navy, so some people might suspect that I grew it simply because I could.
Mostly true.
However, the other part of my justification is that I have a long, thin face. Combined with a hairline that's been abnormally high since I was a kid (and is slowly but surely receding), there was simply too much skin showing. I desperately needed to bring some balance to my visage.
Now, as to Jim's observation on upkeep:
In most cases, one has to regularly trim that sucker, which involves not only a razor, but also scissors and a fair amount of time. To me, that sounds like more of a pain in the ass than a daily three-minute zip, zip zip with a Mach III.
Yeah, not doing a full-face shave WAS part of the attraction. At the rate my whiskers grow, 24 hours does NOT allow enough stubble to grow for my razor to get a good grip on the tiny hairs. Result - a patchy-looking shave and plenty of irritated skin.
Now, I *do* shave my throat and take out any strays along the edges (see Little Joe's quote in the right sidebar), but I only do so every 48 hours, which lets me whack the shadow right down to the follicle every time without irritation. I can live with that. No one accuses me of "not shaving", because - Hey! I have a beard!
As for trimming the beard itself, that's only a little scissoring every couple weeks, and a 15-minute run-through with the electric beard-trimmer about once a month. Timewise, I think I come out ahead.
However, I admit that beards aren't for everyone. If yours is thin & patchy, then you're better off riding the razor-pony. But if you've got the caveman genetics to pull it off, then it's a pretty good deal.
Not to mention the fact that some women find beards VERY attractive. I've had plenty of women who were complete strangers give in to the temptation to touch it.
You naked-faced guys will never know the pleasure.
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"Are you growing a beard, or did you just stop shaving?"
Apparently lacking the "Caveman genetics," I cannot do the former, and I dare not do the latter. Unless, of course, I wish to look like Fido's Ass, or the average 1960's Rutgers SDS member.
Posted by: Jim - PRS at October 21, 2005 05:33 PM (BjDAE)
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My facial hair grows like Homer Simpson's. I can get a clean shave and by the time I leave the house I have stubble again.
I can do a pretty fair Hagrid imitation in about a month.
I trim my beard with a full size plug in barber's hair clipper because the smaller ones meant for beards and mustaches last about two months before they sputter and die.
Posted by: Graumagus at October 22, 2005 03:35 AM (CTtHh)
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The Jamaican girls LOVE a thick beard!
Posted by: TNT at October 22, 2005 10:21 AM (ubhj8)
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Last time I shaved my full face was in 1978... to get a job as an iron-worker at a coal conversion plant in Borger, TX... I could shave the thing off now and people I've known for years wouldn't recognize me until I started to talk (I have a touch of Tourette's syndrome [sp?] - what with all the fucking cussing and shit)
Posted by: Madfish Willie at October 22, 2005 06:02 PM (TxRX2)
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My husband has the thickest fastest growing beard. I tell him if he let it grow out, he'd have hair up to his eyes.
I love his beard, but with his profession, he won't grow one except when we're on vacation. Now it's going gray, so that's his new excuse.
Posted by: Bou at October 22, 2005 08:40 PM (5JHEt)
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I only have a mustache and goatee so I still have to shave daily, but like Grau, when I have to trim my facial hair, I have use a full sized hair trimmer. The thick and corse facial hair I have breaks the smaller beard trimmers after 2-3 months.
Posted by: Contagion at October 26, 2005 03:15 PM (Q5WxB)
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October 07, 2005
WAS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE AN INSULT?
Jen of Jennifer's History & Stuff asks
an interesting question:
Can someone (like say an older white Christian male) who uses the phrase "Jew him down" still be considered a generally decent person? Or should we assume he knows darn well that what he's saying is anti-Semitic?
I'd assume it was a matter of habit & social isolation.
Back in my Navy days, an otherwise charming Southern boy was discussing some improvisational repairs to an automobile and described it as being "nigger-rigged".
While chatting with a group that was predominantly black.
One of the gentlemen of color asked him incredulously to repeat what he just said.
And he said it again, with an innocent and puzzled look on his face, perhaps a little surprised that his friends weren't familiar with what he considered a common colloquialism.
One of the black guys defused the situation by suggesting that perhaps he meant "jury-rigged".
Right about then, the light dawned on this poor kid, who blushed and apologized profusely. Everyone accepted and the conversation moved on. Apparently, he always just thought of the phrase as its meaning and never contemplated the implied racial slur.
Sometimes people use words like that.
Anyway, is "Jew him down" really that offensive? I've always assumed it meant "to negotiate an exceptionally good price" - a compliment to the statistical propensity Jews have for business success.
Apparently some people think it means something else. Damned if I know what.
And at the extreme end, some people see racism and discrimination in even the most innocent sentences, the PC equivalent of Guatemalans seeing the Virgin Mary in every tortilla.
Personally, I say give him the benefit of the doubt. Until and unless he displays a pattern of overt racist behavior, just assume that it's a figure of speech and don't take it personally.
And ain't it just mighty white of me to be so open-minded?
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Harvey, anything said today is offensive to SOMEONE.
Posted by: Ogre at October 07, 2005 11:55 AM (/k+l4)
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I try to keep most of my writing "Harvey'ed down" so that short bus riders, and you, will be able to understand what's going on.
Posted by: That 1 Guy at October 07, 2005 02:23 PM (uzmnT)
Posted by: Harvey at October 07, 2005 04:04 PM (ubhj8)
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I always thought it was 'jerry-rigged'
Posted by: GaMongrel at October 07, 2005 08:41 PM (lZ+tR)
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Well, being a southwesterner I watched the good ol' boys try to adjust from nigger rig to afro engineered.
Posted by: Peter at October 07, 2005 11:55 PM (a9Muw)
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GaMongrel - Now you're either insulting Germans or people named Jerry :-)
Posted by: Harvey at October 08, 2005 09:26 AM (ubhj8)
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Well, I've always said "jerry-rigged" too...I had no idea what "jury-rigged" meant!
Posted by: Susie at October 08, 2005 02:02 PM (a0oF7)
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I've always said jury rigged. I just never use what we call 'the evil n word'. But I would never talk about someone being 'jewed down' either. Its just offensive. Period.
Posted by: Bou at October 08, 2005 08:48 PM (5JHEt)
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Actually, it could easily be a corruption of "Jawed down" the same as a jaw harp was corrupted into jews harp. To jaw someone down is to talk down the price.
Here's one that almost no one thinks about: gypped. No DOUBT that it is derisive, but is it offensive anymore?
Posted by: Phelps at October 09, 2005 05:15 AM (YGoqm)
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Well...he does live up in northern Wisconsin during the warmer months (and grew up there), but he lives in Florida the rest of the year. Somehow I think he knows better.
Plus there was the part where 20 minutes later he said something about "the Jews" owning something on the lakefront. I was in a different conversation in the back of the vehicle and didn't catch what THAT was all about.
Posted by: Jennifer at October 10, 2005 09:40 PM (K5F0g)
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October 04, 2005
ARTISTIC NITPICKING
Since I poked Serenity in the eye over
a couple small technical details (minor spoilers at the link), I thought I'd share some of my other common complaints about TV & movie unrealism (which are not directed specifically at Firefly):
Control panels full of randomly blinking lights - 99% of these lights should be either on or off to tell you their status. As a general design rule, blinking is usually reserved for an abnormal status. The only exceptions I know for this are hard drive or modem activity.
Control panels should also have their buttons, switches, & lights LABELED - When was the last time you saw an unlabeled button on ANY electronic device? Your radio, your VCR, and even your remote control have crap written all over them... yet you're just supposed to GUESS which button to push on a nuclear reactor?
Factories or basements with leaky steam pipes - When you have a steam leak, you call the mechanic and FIX it (having worked in a ship's engine room for 4 years, I speak from experience).
Pipes ALSO have labels.
Super-fast computers that display new lines of text on their screens s-l-o-w-l-y, one letter at a time in green monochrome with a DOS caret at the front of the line - Have these writers even TOUCHED a computer built within the last 20 years?
And don't even get me started on the big blinking "ACCESS DENIED" warning. (Swordfish was especially bad with this one).
Yes, I know it's just an exercise of artistic license to make a plot point and that I should try to relax.
I'm just saying that I notice it.
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100% agreed!
Oh yeah and I've always loved the "ACCESS DENIED"... of course you have to understand that most of the people watching the show probably don't know enough to understand it unless they have an access denied box pop up. *grin*
Posted by: Teresa at October 04, 2005 08:57 AM (qm5ss)
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How about Walker Texas Ranger? EVERYTHING is wrong with that show.
Posted by: Sarah at October 04, 2005 10:37 AM (1xnag)
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101 things I would do if I ever became an Evil Overlord http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html
An excerpt:
# My Legions of Terror will have helmets with clear plexiglass visors, not face-concealing ones.
# My ventilation ducts will be too small to crawl through.
# My noble half-brother whose throne I usurped will be killed, not kept anonymously imprisoned in a forgotten cell of my dungeon.
# Shooting is not too good for my enemies.
Posted by: Tom at October 04, 2005 02:56 PM (Cxkr/)
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Yeah, any computer 'based' movie is horribly unrealistic. Ignore such fantasy farces as 'Lawnmower Man', my beloved 'Tron' and such. Do you remember "The Net" with Sandra Bulloch?
I roll my eyes and have to bite my toungue every time I see someone about to login or hack a computer terminal... remember the good old days when you couldn't see the cpu anywhere, just a monitor and keyboard as if they were using a dumb terminal?
Posted by: gamongrel at October 04, 2005 04:59 PM (3I2hp)
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All explosions in movies really set me off. Grenades go boom then black smoke, not boom then balls of fire. There are very few movies that get it right.
Posted by: Dr. Phat Tony at October 05, 2005 10:49 AM (fk/lm)
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September 30, 2005
PROBLEM SOLVING
Lynn of Reflections in D Minor
examines some ways to
think like a genius, and asks the obvious question on this one:
"Look at problems in many different ways, and find new perspectives that no one else has taken (or no one else has publicized!)"
Uh... okay. How do you do that?
The answer is simple... stare at the problem until an idea pops into your head. Dismiss it because it's trite and unoriginal.
Repeat as often and for as many hours as necessary until something original hits you.
Normally I don't have to do this for more than 3 or 4 hours max before something clicks, although sometimes - if I'm very lucky - it only takes a few minutes.
You probably think I'm kidding, but it's actually how I manage to do most of my assignment-based humor pieces for the Alliance & the IMAO podcast.
It's a crude, brute-force technique, but it DOES work.
Sucks the life right out of ya, though.
By the way, if you think the jokes that I post are bad, you should see the ones that never made it out of my skull.
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I call it brute force and ignorance
Posted by: tommy at September 30, 2005 10:16 AM (TWHR8)
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Or you could just kidnap a genius and hide him in your basement. Geniuses can live on nothing but Ramen soup, need little exercise, and are exceedingly quiet. They do tend to be messy, though.
Posted by: Tom at September 30, 2005 03:00 PM (SwWBR)
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Thanks for sparing us the gruesome task of your more mundane meandring thoughts...
Posted by: Madfish Willie at September 30, 2005 07:36 PM (YFiLK)
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September 29, 2005
MEN DON'T NOTICE
Bloggranddaughter ArmyWifeToddlerMom is
fussing about her weight & her body shape, so I thought I'd try to cheer her up by explaining how men look at women.
When we initially spot a woman, we give her a quick scan, head-to-toe (usually consisting of hair, eyes, lips, boobs, hips & legs), making mental notes of which parts are good and which parts are... REALLY good.
Then we completely ignore the merely good parts and spend our time rotating between staring at the various REALLY good parts.
Once we've got the short list & the rotation pattern, those merely good parts are completely invisible.
You could have an ass the size of Montana. We don't care. We're too busy alternating between wondering what it'd be like to kiss those lips and fantasizing about going face-first into that cleavage you're showing off.
Seriously. If you've got ONE good feature for a man to lock eyes on, you're beautiful.
Of course, MY problem is that my eye muscles are always exhausted, because - being married to TNT - my rotation pattern contains about 300 stops...
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Only 300? You must be slippin' 'cuz I seen a LOT more than that and I ain't even married to her! ;^)
BTW, you (or your wife) interrupted the nice conversation I was having with Tammi a few minutes ago. I WILL seek retribution! You owe me one (1) soft-serve vanilla ice-cream cone, or there's HELL to pay! (and consider yourself lucky I didn't use multiple exclamation points)
Posted by: Johnny - Oh at September 29, 2005 09:05 PM (aPsUA)
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Believe me, I'm grateful that I only got whacked with 3 of those punctuatin' bastards :-)
And the truth is, it IS over 300, but I'm just ashamed to admit that I can't count any higher.
Good thing I know how to bowl, or I wouldn't even be able to count THAT high :-D
Posted by: Harvey at September 29, 2005 10:02 PM (ubhj8)
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Add to that the fact that every man has his own odd set of features he looks for. For me, the upper back, chin, hands, and belly are aesthetic.
Posted by: Tom at September 29, 2005 11:50 PM (l7wD9)
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You just made my day sweetie. Hubby says the same thing -- tells me I'm HOT!! Gotta love a man that says that about me after all this time and I feel I look like I'm 500 years old most days.
Posted by: Jo at September 30, 2005 06:24 AM (TDzJM)
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My problem is trying to check the female out with out her noticing AND my not getting a headache from eye strain.
Posted by: Contagion at September 30, 2005 07:43 AM (Q5WxB)
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CRAZED BUREAUCRACY OR QUEST FOR HEALTHY BABIES?
You may have seen the BBC News story about the hospital in West Yorkshire that instituted a "
no cooing over babies" policy. The subheading on the story makes it sound like the place has been commandeered by foamy-mouthed baby-rights advocates:
A West Yorkshire hospital has banned visitors from cooing at new-born babies over fears their human rights are being breached and to reduce infection.
I think the BBC news version is slanted a bit to make the hospital look more unreasonable than it is.
The local coverage in the Halifax Courier is a little more in-depth and offers a better collection of quotes from those involved, making it look more like the hospital was primarily concerned with the confidentiality interests of the mothers than anything else.
This tidbit from the Telegraph seems to support that:
Staff there had given visitors a card with a message purporting to come from a newborn baby. "I am small and precious so treat me with privacy and respect," the baby said. "My parents ask you to treat my personal space with consideration."
Still, I'm left to wonder exactly what led to this situation? Were there a lot of mums complaining about people asking questions? Perhaps a rash of unwed mothers who didn't want to discuss how the baby came about?
On the other hand, I can't for the life of me come up with a single sane reason for the "What makes you think I want to be looked at?" sign.
Speaking of not-quite-sane, I find this line from the Telegraph story... odd...:
It is ironic that the hospital seems to have used the Human Rights Act to justify an apparently rigid and unfeeling policy[...]
Why is the word "seems" in there? Was the reporter too lazy to call to find out the reason for the "no cooing" policy?
Overall I suspect the papers may be making WAY too much out of one statement from the hospital's Neonatal Manager, Debbie Lawson: "Cooing should be a thing of the past because these are little people with the same rights as you or me"
Notice that she doesn't specify which particular right she's talking about. Let's see if the FULL quote (from the Halifax Courier link) sheds any light:
"We know people have good intentions and most people cannot resist cooing over new babies but we need to respect the child. Cooing should be a thing of the past because these are little people with the same rights as you or me.
"We often get visitors wandering over to peer into cots but people sometimes touch or talk about the baby like they would if they were examining tins in a supermarket and that should not happen."
Sounds slightly less nuts that way, doesn't it? I can understand being upset about people acting with inappropriate casualness toward a stranger's child.
Anyway, setting aside the one out-of-context quote you'll see everywhere, I honestly suspect that the reason for this rule MAY be related to the fact that the UK government has taken an increased interest in tracking hospital infection rates.
Whichever it is, I'm just a little disappointed in the lack of dilligence exhibited by the press on this one.
[Hat tip to bloggranddaughter ArmyWifeToddlerMom for the pointer to the BBC story]
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I'm trying to figure out why the manager of a Neonatal unit is talking about "rights" when she should be telling visitors to keep their hands and germs to themselves!
Secondly I'm wondering where in the world these babies are at that the general public can come in and wander amongst them... Every nursery I've seen in the US is behind glass - and babies in rooms are with their mothers.
Do they have big open wards of new mothers with babies at their side and then tons of visitors? That's a stupid thing to do! I wouldn't be a bit surprised in that case to find that both babies AND mothers have high infection rates. Both of them are pretty vulnerable at that time (no matter how "natural" the process!!!)
Posted by: Teresa at September 29, 2005 02:03 PM (qm5ss)
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It's hard to find details on this story.
I might have to nudge Sally & Alex.
Posted by: Harvey at September 29, 2005 09:37 PM (ubhj8)
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I think it's just random lunacy. Like when that women suggested that failed exams should be described as "deferred success".
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can tell you that maternity wards are very heavily protected with security doors etc..
As for infection rates, I frequently see hospital workers picking up their children from school wearing
their hospital uniforms. My Dad knows someone who died of MRSA, and whenever he sees a nurse, or someone in the street, he takes them to task about it.
Posted by: Sally at September 30, 2005 06:36 AM (T/9Zp)
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For those who (like me) don't know what MRSA is:
"The organism Staphylococcus aureus is found on many individuals skin and seems to cause no major problems. However if it gets inside the body, for instance under the skin or into the lungs, it can cause important infections such as boils or pneumonia. Individuals who carry this organism are usually totally healthy, have no problems whatever and are considered simply to be carriers of the organism.
The term MRSA or methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus is used to describe those examples of this organism that are resistant to commonly used antibiotics. Methicillin was an antibiotic used many years ago to treat patients with Staphylococcus aureus infections. It is now no longer used except as a means of identifying this particular type of antibiotic resistance."
Posted by: Harvey at September 30, 2005 10:13 AM (ubhj8)
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September 28, 2005
PERSPECTIVES ON THE ORIGIN OF THE UNIVERSE
Thinking about what Ogre said regarding the "
fine tuning" of physical constants in the universe being evidence of intelligent design, I think we're having a difference of perspective.
Ogre imagines himself in a pre-universe lawn chair, watching God drawing up plans for a universe capable of sustaining human life.
Me? I come at it quite differently.
I start with the fact that the time is now, the universe exists, and I'm in it. Then I use what I know about the universe as it is to look backwards towards the beginning of time.
Trouble is, there's a wall that I can't see past.
If I remember my Hawking correctly, the physical constants on which I'm basing my mental time-travel assumed their current properties at 3x10-14 seconds after the Big Bang. Before that, they were... different... and there's no way of knowing - under current theory - HOW they were different.
So my vision is limited. Any pronouncements by me of what things were like before that would be speculation of the "guess what's in the mystery box" sort.
Ogre says it's God.
Me? I'm not even sure there IS a box.
Anyway, if such guesswork intrigues you, here's an interesting (if somewhat dry and acronym-laden) essay on it.
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Now, now, I never said it was God, did I? I just said it was an intelligent design. For all I know it was Horton placing stuff in a dandelion -- I'm just saying it doesn't appear to be random chance, and simply has to be on purpose.
Posted by: Ogre at September 28, 2005 07:36 AM (/k+l4)
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P.S. Nice Bucs logo over there...
Posted by: Ogre at September 28, 2005 07:38 AM (/k+l4)
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Ogre - no, you didn't say God.
But you would if I asked, right? :-)
As for the Bucs... yeah, well... there's a REASON it's called "gambling" :-)
Posted by: Harvey at September 28, 2005 08:21 AM (ubhj8)
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My favourite use of the anthropic principle was made by Fred Hoyle. Hoyle had been studying the nucleosynthetic formation of heavier elements through stellar fusion, but couldn't find a way that C-12 could be formed. Just as Gamow had gone through, there looked like no way to explain the existence of any element heavier than helium.
There seemed two ways, both impossible, of carbon-12 being created: 1)the fusion of three helium-4 atoms into a carbon-12 atom, or 2)the fusion of two helium-4's into a beryllium-8, and then a fusion of the Be-8 with a He-4 into C-12. The first is impossible because there could not be enough energy at impact for fusion. The second is impossible because the result predicted is heavier than carbon-12. There seemed no way to explain how Carbon came into existence, and thus no way to explain any of the heavier elements.
Hoyle solved the problem thus:
A. Fred Hoyle exists in the universe.
B. Fred Hoyle is a carbon-based lifeform.
C. Therefore Carbon exists in the universe.
D. Therefore there must be a way of creating carbon.
E. The only way to create carbon must involve an exact excited (and via e=mc^2, heavier) state which is attainable through fusion.
F. Therefore there must exist this exact excited state of carbon.
In short, "he is partly made from the c-12 nucleus, so the correct excited state of carbon must exist, or otherwise neither c-12 nor Fred Hoyle would exist." (Simon Singh's "Big Bang")
In the end, Hoyle calculated that the excited state would have to be 7.65 MeV's above the normal state, and this was found to exist by Willy Fowler at the Kellog Radiation Lab within a brief time.
As far as I know, this was the only use of the anthropic principle which yielded empirically falsifiable results (Martin Rees' "Just Six Numbers," though brilliant it, as Harvey states, does not tell us enough to test)
Posted by: Tom at September 28, 2005 09:28 AM (iinH5)
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You never know. I might believe that earth was created by aliens...but Horton sounds much more friendly, doesn't he?
Posted by: Ogre at September 28, 2005 02:47 PM (/k+l4)
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September 27, 2005
PLAYING DICE WITH THE UNIVERSE
Ogre of Ogre's Politics & Views
mulls over the possibility of the universe arising by happenstance, crunches some numbers, and concludes.
"In other words, according to physics and mathematics, there is absolutely no possible way that this universe was created through random chance -- it's simply not possible."
I beg to differ. There's a big difference between "infinitesimally small" and "non-existent".
What he's calculating are the odds of getting it right on the first try.
To calculate the probability of the universe as we know it getting created, you'd need to know the number of trials that were attempted.
As the number of trials approaches the inverse of the odds of occurrance, the likelihood of success approaches certainty. Not knowing the number of trials involved, though, there's no conclusion to reach about how much of a long-shot the universe is. There may well have been a Googolplex of failed universes before a functional one popped up.
For the record, I'm agnostic about any particular theory of universal creation. The rules of physics changed at the (moment of creation/big bang), and without consistent rules, there's no way to deduce what happened before that moment.
So if you want to say "God created it", fine.
Me, I'm just going to say "I don't know, and I don't think I ever will".
I'm only an atheist about the stuff that happened afterwards.
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I'm not going to say who, what, when, why, or how, but I'm just going to ask this:
As a kid, or even now, how many times have you dumped out a cannister of lincoln logs and they've bounced into a cabin? Or taken an erector set, tossed up all the pieces together, and had a working vehicle when it landed?
I'm not saying that it's impossible, just nearly so... unless there's some assistance.
Posted by: That 1 Guy at September 27, 2005 10:36 AM (YcI5w)
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Even if you take the case that there was only one attempt the probability argument doesn't work.
What happened is one of a possibly infinite number of outcomes, but something was going to happen, and whatever it was that happened was going to be one of a possibly infinite number of outcomes.
The only think that makes it interesting is the fact that we are talking about large enough numbers that they are approaching unimaginable.
Posted by: tommy at September 27, 2005 10:43 AM (TWHR8)
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(Anxiously waiting Harvey's Response to T1G because the odds don't increase with infinite possibilities, according to the smart math people).
Posted by: Ogre at September 27, 2005 02:11 PM (/k+l4)
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Slightly away from the point, here are some pretty fly MC Hawking lyrics:
I'm not saying there's no God,
That's not for me to say.
I'm just saying the universe
wasn't built in a day.
Posted by: Chuck at September 27, 2005 07:47 PM (JXgKx)
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Dump out that bucket of Lincoln logs.
Return logs to bucket.
Dump again.
Repeat every minute for several billion years.
No matter how improbable, as long as something isn't completely impossible it will happen given a long enough time span.
That said, my own personal belief is that the nature of the universe and man's understanding of it are mutally exclusive. That there is an intelligence behind everything, and if we ever even come close to figuring out the rules of the game that intelligence will change the rules around because it's a complete asshole like that.
Posted by: Graumagus at September 27, 2005 10:07 PM (z9usc)
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T1G - Sure, in THIS universe, pouring Lincoln Logs into a cabin is improbable, but if you adjust some of the physical constants, it becomes quite commonplace :-)
Posted by: Harvey at September 27, 2005 10:22 PM (ubhj8)
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I find the example flawed in that logs do not have the capacity to evolve. Each instantiation of a human habitable environment is unique. Even if they were all identical, the myriad of possible variables induces the possibility of random having success.
By the way, I support ID.
Posted by: _Jon at September 27, 2005 10:23 PM (sSrI9)
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But odds and probability are different things. Odds are a mathematical number. Probability is the chance that something will actually happen. In this example, and the Lincoln Log example, you might be able to calculate that there is a 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (breath) 000,000,000,000 chance that the logs when dumped out will form a house. However, the probability of that happening is zero -- it will not happen.
It's the same with the origin of the universe. Mathematically, it's simply not possible to randomly form, no matter how many times you dump that pile of stuff out.
Posted by: Ogre at September 28, 2005 06:02 AM (/k+l4)
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Ogre - You're assuming these physical constants CAN be dumped. There may be an underlying force in the universe (as yet unknown) which - as an emergent property - causes constants to be restricted to what they are.
Of course, if THAT were true, you'd point to THAT and say "See? Intelligent Design!" :-)
Anyway, for everyone's amusement:
Infinite Monkeys!
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WHY I DON'T LIKE CSI
Via Lynn of
Reflections in D Minor, I found
this disapproving review of CSI at Plugged In. This quote pretty much sums it up:
Twenty years ago on Quincy, Jack Klugman described the murders he uncovered each week. CSI shows theirs. From every angle. Over and over again. A drug-crazed raver strangles his friend. A woman caves in a manÂ’s skull with a rock. A man shoots himself in the head. A teenager stabs an entire family to death with a kitchen knife. The detectives are fond of saying that blood "talks." It also flies, drips, runs and pools on the floor. CSI is ugly, exploitative, gross, [and] disrespectful of the dead [...]
True.
But what they don't mention is what turns me off the most about this show: the detectives' antiseptic indifference to what they see.
When Quincy described the autopsies he did on his victims, there was always a suppressed undertone of outrage in his voice, as though - even after all his years as a Medical Examiner - he was still mortified at the inhumanity that was shown to the bodies he was examining.
CSI? They couldn't care less. They're cold, emotionless... practically bored. It's just another classroom exercise to them. Whatever.
Mostly I avoid the show, although I occasionally peek in just to see if someone is going to feel something.
I'm still waiting.
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To even compare CSI to Quincy is insane. It's sort of like comparing Evil Glennn to Bambi. CSI is simply trying to exploit the public's current desire for blood and gore and trying to shock more and more than anyone else.
Posted by: Ogre at September 20, 2005 08:00 AM (/k+l4)
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I don't know about the spin-off CSIs, but in the original, they do have
some emotions. In fact, one of them (Sidle) is always getting in trouble whenever there seems to be a domestic violence case because she keeps attacking the suspects like a rabid pit-bull. (Verbally that is. She never shoots anyone.) She's contrasted with Grissom, who is accused of having no emotions.
But at the same time, you do have to realistically expect some detatchment from a professional in that position. Otherwise they would burn out with the first unsolved case they get.
I love to watch that show, but I do have one problem with it. It tends to portray the technology a little unrealistically. For example, you can't get DNA cross-matching in half an hour. In the real world, it takes weeks. (Although, maybe things are different in Vegas...)
Posted by: GEBIV at September 20, 2005 08:03 AM (VaRSl)
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All that said, I really liked to watch Quincy too.
Posted by: GEBIV at September 20, 2005 08:04 AM (VaRSl)
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I agree on the most part with Gebiv. I love CSI, the orriginal. I don't like the others.
I think they do a decent job of portraying the emotional issues of the individuals that work in that field. From my personal experience especially after pulling bodies out of rivers, handling suicide victims, assisting in the removal of bodies from cars, doing autopsies on 18 month old babies, investigating child rape cases and listening to someone burn to death in a house fire 20 miles away. You tend to have to seperate your emotions, if you don't you will lose it. You can be outraged at people, but there is time for that AFTER you do your job.
There is a reason I have no love for people.
Posted by: Contagion at September 20, 2005 08:15 AM (Q5WxB)
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I really, really hate it when detectives show emotions! Its unrealistic, you cant deal with dead bodies every day and agonize about it without going mad in two weeks! Even in CSI there was too much of it! One character there particularly vexed me in this regard - she had this constant gaze as if she were to cry any moment.
Though I dont think its the actual showing of emotions by detectives - I dont mind Hercule Poirot getting angry for example - its probably the bad acting on display.
Posted by: lemuel at September 20, 2005 09:10 AM (aOCIX)
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Contagion - granted, there's a certain level of realism involved, but the thing is - this is a TV show. It doesn't HAVE to be realistic. They can make their characters more sympathetic if they want to, and the 299+ million people who DON'T work the job won't know the difference.
But the producers of CSI and/or its spin-offs don't care, as long as they get enough camera time for their corpse-porn - because getting to show realistic dead body parts is what it's all about.
Anyway, if the Quincy comparison doesn't work, how about in Silence of the Lambs when Agent Starling examines the corpse? She showed both emotion AND professionalism.
Posted by: Harvey at September 20, 2005 09:14 AM (ubhj8)
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I disagree, I think that is why the show is doing as well as it is. People that worked the job, and/or know people that did see the realism of it. Of course the time frames and the exactness they get stuff done in isn't true at all.
I will agree the show does like it's special effects, and they are great.
As for Starling in Silence of the Lambs... good movie, complete BS and Starling in the movie was a newbie... She wouldn't have developed a sensitivity to it yet. Think of in CSI when they took Greg Sanders in to view his first corpse and he couldn't look at it and was all nervous and almost got sick. Same thing there.
Posted by: Contagion at September 20, 2005 09:32 AM (Q5WxB)
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Harv- If you ever meet my sister I'll have to have her do her CSI impression for you. It's really funny. She hates that show.
Posted by: Bou at September 20, 2005 05:49 PM (5JHEt)
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MY main bitch is why don't they ever turn the fucking lights on.... WTF is it with that?
Posted by: Madfish Willie at September 20, 2005 09:00 PM (YFiLK)
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Willie - DAMN good question.
Low lighting has become VERY hip & trendy in TV shows.
Maybe they're trying to cover a lack of acting ability :-)
Posted by: Harvey at September 20, 2005 09:24 PM (ubhj8)
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My gripe is all you intelligent people sitting around watching a fucking soap opera. And *all* of them are soap operas.
And don't give me that "down time" bullshit.
How about each of you get a hobby that will provide what you need (relaxation) *and* allow you to help the current generation or leave something that benefits the next?
Be a "Creator" rather than just a "Consumer".
Posted by: _Jon at September 20, 2005 10:01 PM (sSrI9)
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I simply watch it because George "Nick" Eads is HOT!
I'd do him anytime, anywhere.
Posted by: Machelle at September 21, 2005 07:24 AM (ZAyoW)
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I don't watch Tv, so it doesn't much affect me. However, I caught a bit of that show at a friend's house one night. What bothered me about it was that they were wildly inaccurate on technical details. I've heard that some people are impressed by the show's "realism", but those are folks who don't know anything about real-world blood & gore.
Dilletantes.
Posted by: Tennessee Budd at September 21, 2005 07:49 AM (fjXUW)
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_Jon - I blog about boobies, and I do it for the children :-)
Posted by: Harvey at September 21, 2005 08:35 AM (ubhj8)
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I'm with Willie, WTF with the damn lights? but it IS nice to see someone mention Quincy, which is my favorite show of ALL time. Did you know it just came out on DVD?
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September 18, 2005
CRESCENT OF EMBRACE IS FINE
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Some folks are upset that the Flight 93 memorial "Crescent of Embrace" resembles an Islamic crescent.
Me, I'm ok with making a point of reminding people exactly what religion those murdering terrorist shitbags thought justified their actions.
And if it's true that it's oriented toward Mecca, then it's also handy for showing which way to aim our ICBM's.
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Posted by: Tyler D. at September 19, 2005 02:55 AM (dd9FX)
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what an intelligent view. you must be an american.
Posted by: Inquisitor at September 20, 2005 07:46 AM (CK9oN)
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And a not-too-happy one at that :-)
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September 13, 2005
ON EVOLUTION
Ogre opened
a can of worms, so I'm going to pull out some nightcrawlers.
Intermediate and transitional forms.
Observed instances of speciation.
Finally, don't forget to check what Darwin actually wrote in Origin of Species, with - perhaps - special attention to Chapter 6, where he addresses some of the objections that he thought people would raise to his theory:
Difficulties on the theory of descent with modification -Transitions-Absence or rarity of transitional varieties-Transitions in habits of life-Diversified habits in the same species-Species with habits widely different from those of their allies-Organs of extreme perfection-Means of transition-Cases of difficulty-Natura non facit saltum-Organs of small importance-Organs not in all cases absolutely perfect-The law of Unity of Type and of the Conditions of Existence embraced by the theory of Natural Selection
WARNING: The above links contain prodigious quantities of dry, technical language. Do not attempt to read without having a caffeine source handy.
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I needed some reading material to put me to sleep. THANKS! ;-)
Posted by: vw bug at September 13, 2005 11:02 AM (J3xJ9)
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But realize that all links to that site are not designed to be an open-minded view -- the site is predisposed to supporting evolution and will not even consider any evidence that precludes evolution.
In fact, on that same site, the author declares the intelligent design is NOT a theory. He then declares that the only way to disprove the theory of evolution is to come up with a better theory.
In other words, he says he's right because he's right and you cannot prove him wrong.
But, to address just one issue with the specific links -- the site claims that jellyfish and sponges (not SpongeBob), have a "common ancestor." Can anyone explain how a sponge grew organs? And if they did, why are there still sponges? If survival of the fittest happened, and The Sponge That Grew An Organ was more designed to survive, why didn't the Sponge die out?
Posted by: Ogre at September 13, 2005 12:37 PM (/k+l4)
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Ogre - I'd prefer to leave the author's attitudes out of the argument and stick to his statements. His being closed-minded doesn't affect whether he's right or wrong.
Anyway, offhand I'd say that the mobility that gave jellyfish an advantage wasn't in competition with the way sponges get their food. I'd guess that the competition that gave rise to the jellyfish was happening more toward the outer periphery of the sponge territory, and the more jellyfish-like critter was better able to get food than whatever other species was originally out-competing sponges outside of sponge territory.
Basically the difference between intra- and inter-species survival struggle.
Just my opinion. I haven't studied biology much.
Posted by: Harvey at September 13, 2005 01:49 PM (ubhj8)
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Hard to know what to say to this but I will try.
Evolution works. Millions of years and fossil evidence that is still being produced to this day along with advancement in other scientific areas such as DNA and genetics and the ability to compare cell structure and the like all prove that evolution at various levels is taking place. Our brains are still evolving as has been recently proven. If evolution was defunct we would all still be living in caves and hunting mammoths.
Theoretical sciences (a lot of physics is theory I understand) is a completely different matter. Stephen Hawkins is busy proving and disproving various aspects of quantum mechanics, etc but I wouldn't have the tenacity to go and argue some of his theories as being wrong with him.
On a wider note I read with some dispair an article about the cutting if the funding from your government in R&D science areas and this saddens me. Once, your nation took all the worlds truely great scientists, furbished them with money and allowed them to flourish, giving us some truely momentous and ground breaking advances and insights. It seems that America is attempting to revert to a kind of Dark Ages and I, for one, am saddened by that. I wonder whether people like Oppenheimer, Cray, Nash et al would have been allowed to flourish now or to rot in obscurity.
Posted by: Alex at September 14, 2005 08:05 AM (p5HG8)
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Knowing the reasons a person says things indeed has an effect on the results. The reasoning on that particular site goes like this:
It is a confirmed fact that 2 is not a number. No one can dispute this fact.
I propose that 1+1=3. The only way you can prove me wrong is to provide a better number for an answer to 1+1.
From that point, he begins his arguments. It is simply impossible to disagree with that author, simply because he says it is so. That's why I don't rely on that site -- it's just disingenuous and dishonest.
To continue to sponge/jellyfish example, back up a tiny bit -- where did the organs come from? How did the sponge suddenly generate organs? If it was to survive, then the sponge would need to die off. If it wasn't to survive, then the sponge with the organs would have died off.
There's no reason for the sponge to grow organs -- and there's actually no mechanism for it to grow organs, either. The only way to explain this split of species is to reject survival of the fittest.
Posted by: Ogre at September 14, 2005 11:02 AM (/k+l4)
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Ogre - Ok, so... I'm not allowed to cite anything from Talkorigins?
And you found no useful information at either of those links addressing your concerns about intermediate forms and observed speciation?
Anyway, could you point to the specific passage about sponges & jellyfish? I may have missed something.
Alex - American scientists do fine using private funds. Bioweapons plants are always hiring :-)
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September 11, 2005
1000 OR SO WORDS ON 9/11
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reposted from 9/11/04)
Higher, please.
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This picture is
an original work of art by
Bryan Larsen, which I found pre-9/11/01 at the
Quent Cordair Art Gallery site. It fascinated me enough to bookmark it then, and I've viewed it many times since. Both professional quality and poster prints of this image are available via the Quent Cordair site.
The following text appears at the first link:
The following letter was written by Quent Cordair on Friday, September, 14, 2001, to our mailing list:
Dear friends, family and associates,
As a former U.S. Marine, I once carried a rifle in our defense. I've two younger brothers in the military who now stand ready to cover that end of things. The firemen, doctors, rescue personnel, blood donors, the brave New Yorkers and others on the scene are giving what they have to give to the effort. Philosophers are fighting with the pen. The artists' tools are uniquely valuable as well.
As a gallery owner, I offer what I have -- a single image to inspire, to counter the endless images of the destruction which we've all endured over the past days. This image stands in lucid contrast, in defiance of those who would destroy. It is a re-affirmation of who we are, of what we've created, of what we've built, of what we will rebuild and build higher yet, with unthwarted and unconquered determination. Those who would destroy us have not touched our essence.
My thanks to the artist, Bryan Larsen, who during the months in which others were plotting to destroy the World Trade Center, was busy creating, featuring the towers in an artwork which identifies and celebrates in theme all the towers stood for. The creation of this painting while others were targeting the painting's subject for destruction was no coincidence; there is no irony in the timing. Each side identified the WTC as a vital symbol of America in these times; one side sought to destroy that value, the other to celebrate it and build on it. In retrospect, the artwork stands in memorial. The World Trade Center was not fully appreciated, by many, until it was gone.
May this image serve as inspiration as we recover and look to the future. Please feel welcome to share it with all, to remind ourselves, and the world, of who we are, undaunted and unbeaten. God bless America, those who built it, those who will build again, and higher.
Quent Cordair
Again, I say...
Higher, please.
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It's true - sometimes we're better off without words:
http://mistersnitch.blogspot.com/2005/09/our-after-911-site-is-online.html
5 minute video memorial. No burning buildings, no rubble, no explosions, no speeches, no screeches, no Bin Laden, no bodies. Just a remembrance of some people whose lives were cut short through no fault of their own, with poignant candid snapshots from their lives, accompanied by a musical background.
Posted by: Mr. Snitch! at September 11, 2005 03:15 PM (2CNDQ)
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Hi Harvey. To commemorate 9/11, I've decided to visit every single blog on my blogroll today. I appreciate the entertainment and enjoyment you provide, and I wish you peace and happiness.
LJ
Posted by: mooalex at September 11, 2005 03:52 PM (k8QWM)
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September 08, 2005
HE HAS THE RIGHT, BUT I THINK HE'S WRONG
President Bush ordered US flags to be flown at half-staff "
As a mark of respect for the victims of Hurricane Katrina".
I understand that the President has broad discretionary powers in this arena, but I don't think it's appropriate in this case.
Half-staff should be reserved for honoring the death of specific individuals who, by their government service, did much to honor this country. Presidents, Justices, Congressmen, etc? Yes. I have no problem with that.
To honor international allies facing the loss of one of their great names? Sure. That's what friends are for.
And perhaps even honoring some victims who lost their lives during battles in the War on Terror. Individual soldiers or those who died on 9/11.
But I draw the line at people killed by weather.
Yes, I know President Bush also ordered half-staffing for the victims of the Asian tsunami. He was wrong about that, too.
I think he should keep the lowering of the flag as a gesture of honor - reserved for people and events which define us as a nation.
Using it as a mere "mark of respect" cheapens it.
[Thanks to Beloved Wife TNT of Smiling Dynamite for bringing this to my attention]
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Seriously??
I agree with you!
Posted by: Sissy at September 08, 2005 04:50 PM (uXS+O)
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Seriously.
There should be a line between respecting the dead and honoring them, and half-staffing should be kept on the "honoring" side of that line.
Posted by: Harvey at September 08, 2005 05:03 PM (ubhj8)
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You should be an expert at "half-staffing" by now... jack-off idiot that you are.
Posted by: Madfish Willie at September 08, 2005 07:25 PM (0LuE9)
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Thus begins the uninformed moonbat rantings. Willie, why not try being constructive in your criticism, or is that just too difficult for small intellect to handle?
Posted by: SeanS at September 08, 2005 10:23 PM (cEjQ0)
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I'm completely with you on this one.
I'm still not totally sure about the half-staff for Sept 11th (which is now a "permanent" thing).
Posted by: Ogre at September 09, 2005 05:53 AM (/k+l4)
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Perhaps they are half-staff because of Chief Justice Rehnquist's departure.
Kudos for know it ain't half-mast
Posted by: don surber at September 09, 2005 06:32 AM (OIxNx)
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Heh - he said "half-staff". heh.
btw, Harv your blog has been slow lately.
Posted by: _Jon at September 09, 2005 07:39 AM (R6yie)
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Sean - Actually, Madfish Willie isn't a troll. He's one of my blogsons whose schtick is being a crotchety old grouch. Just give it right back to him.
Madfish - and YOU would be an expert on "quarter-staffing", mister micro-manhood :-P
Ogre - I'm kinda wobbly on that one myself. Although it's technically war-related, and I don't have a problem with honoring war heroes, it's still the top of the slippery slope - honoring victims.
Don - Half-staff vs. half mast:
http://www.usa-flag-site.org/faq/half-staff.shtml
_Jon - yeah, I know :-(
Posted by: Harvey at September 09, 2005 09:55 AM (ubhj8)
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Been gone a couple o' days...
Sean...Sean...Sean.... Luckily for you, Herbey just saved you from a savage verbal beat-down!
Posted by: Madfish Willie at September 11, 2005 09:56 PM (YFiLK)
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September 01, 2005
PRICE GOUGING IS A GOOD THING
Why? Because the alternative is shortages.
Future supplies of gas (and more regionally - other consumer goods) are uncertain. It could very well be that needed items will not be able to be sent to where they can be easily purchased through normal channels. Nobody knows.
Uncertainty makes consumers panicky, and panicked consumers start hoarding.
Jacking up the prices is the only way to keep these panicky people from buying up everything in sight and causing shortages.
Meanwhile, the high prices are also an incentive for freelancers to load up their station wagons to bring in more supplies, helping to ease the supply crunch until the regular distribution channels are back to full capacity.
It's a temporary spike and temporary price spikes let people do their own rationing. People can decide for themselves if $5/gallon gas is worth buying, or if they should wait a couple days. Prices will drop after people take a few deep breaths, and things will get back to normal a lot quicker this way.
However, as a cheap political stunt, some government officials try price controls. Since there's now no incentive to not buy stuff, panicky consumers start hoarding, leading to shortages and more panic.
There's also no profit incentive to return capacity to previous level, nor is there any encouragement for freelancers to help bring in supplies, outside of organized charity.
If there were any brains in government, they'd get the hell out of the way and let anyone help who wanted to, even if they DO make money off it.
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Gee, but letting capitalist market forces take over is never politically expedient. The politicians are perceived as not doing anything to SAVE us!
can't have that.
Posted by: tbflowers at September 01, 2005 04:18 PM (XdNW/)
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I hope you are right, Harvey. I have a feeling, though, that the oil companies won't be so anxious to let the price fall back to where it used to be in a matter of days. I'm guessing more along the lines of months.
Posted by: SeanS at September 02, 2005 04:03 AM (cEjQ0)
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There's no such thing as PRICE GOUGING in a free, capitalist society. It simply doesn't exist. What is the value of a glass of water in the Sahara? What is it's value in New Orleans right now? Any government intervention can only have disasterous results -- absolutely assured.
Posted by: Ogre at September 02, 2005 06:13 AM (/k+l4)
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Also, there's nothing the gas stations would like more that to start undercutting each other to draw in customers, and any given gas station would do it if they could afford it. Not to mention that a lot of states have minimum mark-up laws which prevent gas stations from selling buck-a-gallon gas and making up for it with inside sales.
From what I've heard, most gas stations make more money off of inside food & beverage sales than they do off gas, anyway.
They don't want to sell expensive gas as much as they want to get you inside the store.
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August 05, 2005
I DON'T *HAVE* TO, BUT I DO ANYWAY.
Graumagus of Frizzen Sparks is
talking about seat belts, and I like the way he sets it up:
I've pretty much got a lifetime membership to the "Fuck the nanny state" club. I'm not a big fan of laws requiring people to wear seatbelts, wear motorcycle helmets, etc.
[snip]
But just because I don't think the law should force people to wear them doesn't mean I don't think they're suicidal idiots for not doing so.
Same with me.
I personally became a fan of seat belts when I watched a driver safety film in my high school driver's ed class. In one scene, they showed the one good thing France ever did. They gave a prisoner a reduced sentence if he drove a car into a tree at 50 mph.
He did.
The front of the car looked like a wadded up Kleenex afterwards.
He unbuckled & stepped out of the car 2 seconds after impact without a damn scratch.
I was sold.
About 10 years later, I was driving home after dark, in winter, down a piece of highway that I'd driven down every day for years. It was cold - below freezing - but it handn't snowed for days. That road should've been clean & dry.
Apparently I found a spot where it wasn't.
Lost control of the car, started spinning around in circles, went off the right side of the road, down a shallow slope, and slammed driver's-side-door-first into a big ass tree.
My car had a distinct horseshoe-shape to it.
My injuries consisted of a couple small cuts on my right hand, because it landed in a pile of glass from the driver's-side window that had landed on the passenger seat.
That's all.
I'm still sold on seat belts.
Funny thing is, I told this story to the tow-truck driver who brought me & my horseshoe-car the 5 more miles to my front door, and his response?
"I don't like seatbelts".
Maybe one of his cars was wrecked by a French prisoner...
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In the 23 years I spent working the roads of my county I never once had to unstrap a corpse.
In spite of that, we seldom wore our belts on routine patrol, we'd buckle up when we were in a chase or running to a hot call. The seatbelt slowed us down when we'd have to bail out of the cruiser to chase some as, um bad guy and the belt was very uncomfortable over that Sam Browne belt with all the crap we had to carry on it. Hard to get to the shootin' iron, too.
Funny, when I creamed that cruiser at a hundred plus, I walked away. I spent damned near a week in the body and fender shop when a drunk rammed me while I was stopped, sitting in the car unbelted writing a ticket.
The only times I wrote tickets for seatbelt violations when only adults were involved was when the citizen got real mouthy or the brass was on me for not writing them. Usually there were enough people that talked me into giving them tickets that the bosses stayed off my butt. Kids, though, that's another story. Grownups can decide to be organ doners, that didn't bother me but buckle up the kids or I'd be on the driver like stink on, er, white on rice.
These days? I don't drive down to the mailbox without the belt on.
Posted by: Peter at August 05, 2005 01:27 AM (QazL/)
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"In the 23 years I spent working the roads of my county I never once had to unstrap a corpse."
LOVE that line :-)
The bad thing for me is that I've got a 20+ year habit of reaching for shoulder strap, and now my damn car has passive restraints, and 90% of the time I forget the lap belt.
I hate automatic seatbelts.
Posted by: Harvey at August 05, 2005 01:41 AM (ubhj8)
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Man, my first car was a VW bug. Used to slide off the vinyl seat on sharp turns. at the very least I like the feeling that I'm firmly rooted.
Posted by: tbflowers at August 05, 2005 05:30 AM (lujBT)
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Amen to all above.
I once read a e-mail by someone which started with the line of "We never wore (seatbelts or helmets when we rode bikes or some such) and we are still here and alive. I pointed out that was because the ones who weren't alive and well weren't using the computer to write such messages. She didn't get it.
Posted by: Rachel Ann at August 05, 2005 06:10 AM (PAocK)
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I HATE "automatic" belts. Total crap.
And I'm in complete agreement here -- the laws requiring seat belts are 100% crap. If they're legitimate, why I am "permitted" to work in my yard when it's 100 degrees? Assholes (the state, not you people).
Posted by: Ogre at August 05, 2005 06:20 AM (/k+l4)
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Farging seat-belt bastages....
Posted by: Madfish Willie at August 05, 2005 07:09 AM (ikJsr)
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I wrote a post on seatbelt use in 2004.
Of all the people that died in vehicle accidents, 55% of those were not wearing seatbelts.
That equals out to roughly 23,000 people who probably would not have died if they took the few seconds it takes to belt up.
Oh, the hell with it. I will follow Harveys rule from above and post it on my blog.
Posted by: Machelle at August 05, 2005 07:16 AM (ZAyoW)
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Yeah... it's bringing a post.
Posted by: Bou at August 05, 2005 08:54 AM (5JHEt)
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I don't believe there should be any such things as mandatory seat-belt or helmet laws. That said, I often ride in Kentucky, which has no helmet law. I wear a helmet wherever & whenever I ride.
Back when I used to drink & drive, I totalled almost a dozen cars. Never wore a seat belt, never got seriously hurt. I wear a seat belt when I drive not for the reason most do, but so that I'm anchored behind the wheel & don't go sliding around during extreme driving.
Posted by: Tennessee Budd at August 05, 2005 09:49 AM (twjgR)
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I sent Grau's note to a firefighter friend and he said the same thing as Peter, that in 20 years in the fire service, he never had to cut a seatbelt off a corpse.
If that doesn't sell you on using them I don't know what will.
Posted by: George at August 05, 2005 10:33 AM (NBcjQ)
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My mantra to myself when I think about not clicking up on short trips:
"I don't want to become a quadraplegic because I 'didn't feel like buckling up'. That's just WAY too humiliating and it sounds like something a hippy would say."
Posted by: Harvey at August 05, 2005 02:39 PM (ubhj8)
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Herbey... I'm thinking that maybe your injury was more serious than you care to admit... how else to explain your fucked up thought processi... anyway, if you ran into anything 'head-on' you'd disappear 'cause your head is so far up your ass!
Posted by: Madfish Willie at August 05, 2005 06:45 PM (ikJsr)
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I prefer to think of it as wearing an "ass-helmet".
Safety First, Willie :-P
Posted by: Harvey at August 05, 2005 07:03 PM (ubhj8)
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I'm the older brother and grew up with Harv,
the boy's been this way from day one
Posted by: bloggless brother at August 05, 2005 11:56 PM (4fLAh)
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I was in a low speed collision a little over two years ago.
We were pulling out of the school parking lot, and, at not an alarming rate, we hit the car in front of us.
I was strapped in in the back, and hit my knee a tiny bit. No trouble, just a bump. like running into a table.
The girl in the passenger seat, however, (and keep in mind that we couldn't have been going more than twenty miles an hour), had not yet belted up and used her forehead to, not only crack, but render the car undrivable via shattered windshield.
Miraculously she walked away with just a bump, but that totally reenforced everything I felt about the belts.
Posted by: Chuck at August 06, 2005 02:55 AM (VMlbg)
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Terrific post Harv. My mother was in an accident nearly 40 yrs ago in which she wasn't wearing a seat belt. Thrown through the windshield, body found far from the car and shoes far in the other direction. Survived with minimal frontal lobe brain damage and various deep wounds to face and legs but still bearing physical and emotional scars to this day. All would have been different had she just been wearing that belt. Yeah I'm buckling up, law or no law. So is she. Awareness beats evil nanny laws.
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August 03, 2005
AND A *REALLY* BIG BROOM
Blogdaughter Tammi of Tammi's World talks about
the importance of emotional Spring Cleaning.
I agree, everyone's gotta do it sooner or later. Crap builds up & needs to be taken to the curb.
Me? I use a pen, a spiral notebook, and a quiet place - preferably outside, if it's reasonably nice - then just start writing.
I find that when I'm troubled, the biggest problem is that my thoughts keep jumping and swirling and I can't find a pattern, much less the root cause of what's REALLY bugging me. So I start by jotting down the first piece of flotsam that floats by. Ok, that's gone. Next.
On and on and on.
Eventually, my mind's waters are clear of garbage (although still swirly), and maybe now I can see to the bottom, find the plug, pull it out, drain the tank, and feel clean and dry again.
I can't say it ALWAYS works, but I never feel worse afterwards.
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Actually, I highly recommend it. Sometimes you'll be amazed at what comes out. Writing therapy always works. It's the best way to find out what you're really upset about.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 03, 2005 04:13 PM (V2q8y)
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How very Metro-sexual of you....
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I'm with Harv and Cindy, writing works. It's one of those essentials I learned about early in recovery from alcoholism. It even helps pull me out of depression.
Posted by: Peter at August 04, 2005 12:50 AM (Laplv)
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Willie - you're just jealous because I'm more Metro than you :-P
Posted by: Harvey at August 04, 2005 09:19 AM (ubhj8)
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Journaling, writing out my emotional vomit. Occassionally blogging about it. Yeah, that's what I do.
Oh, and sometimes I just go kill random homeless persons.
Posted by: littlejoe at August 04, 2005 11:46 AM (gpXkb)
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show me your feelings, you big sensitive bastid you....
Posted by: Madfish Willie at August 04, 2005 03:23 PM (ikJsr)
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Willie - if you're gonna hug me, watch the hands this time :-P
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July 27, 2005
I'M GOOD WITH IT
Ogre of Ogre's Politics & Views
puts forth the following lament:
This editorial in the Sun News of Myrtle Beach has it right. The editorial talks about a "tax break" that's been proposed in North Carolina. This "break" would allow home builders to be exempt from property taxes for up to 5 years for homes they build that are not occupied immediately.
Of course, if this happens, then everyone else will have to pay more taxes to make up for the builder not paying taxes.
Me?
Personally, I'm happy for ANYONE who gets out of paying any tax for any reason.
It'd be better if it were me, but... *shrug*
And technically, the tax break doesn't CAUSE the higher taxes on everyone else. That's a separate decision and deserves to be cursed on its own.
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